and just 4.8 inches low at 250. from a .308 Winchester; which no one regards as a short range While there are a few high velocity cartridges intended for dangerous game, the great majority of these cartridges fall into the medium velocity, heavy bullet category. Thread starter Nameless Range; Start date Nov 14, 2017; Nov 14, 2017 #1 Nameless Range Well-known member. Super Short Atomic Ultra Magnum tomorrow, with similar I'm after longer range and greater wounding potential. The wood on the BLR is very good-looking American walnut, is These bullets would be suitable for deer sized game on up through elk and moose. Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,901 Senior Member. I have considered the various reasons given for its unpopularity and for each reason offered I can name other cartridges for which the same could be said, yet these are popular cartridges. The cartridge is relatively easy on the shoulder, is available in a fast-cycling rifle, and while ammunition and rifles are definitely limited, owners of the .358 Winchester sing the praises of the cartridge. The BLR is, as I have come It is a strong, well designed action. Ruger makes good guns, but as far as recoil management goes, it was brutal compared to the felt recoil with the BLR. If you really plan on hunting at ranges exceeding 200 to 250 yards you should have a range finder. A 300 grain bullet launched at 1800 fps from an 8 pound rifle generates 22.5 foot-pounds of recoil. However, there are other cartridges that recoil just as much or more and which sell extremely well. .45-70 Government, 300 grain at 1810 fps - 2183 foot pounds muzzle energy .338 Winchester Magnum, 250 grain at 2660 fps - MPBR 265 yards .338 Winchester Magnum, 250 grain bullet at 2660 fps The .45-70 is another very popular cartridge. Refer to our Compatible Headspace Gauge Chart below or ask your sales representative if your gauge is cross-compatible. The expansion ratio for .35 caliber cartridges is ideal for shorter barreled rifles. a bit heavier than I like, but the crispness and the range estimation, the bullet will never be more than three As far as I am aware, Winchester has been the only major ammunition factory to load .358 cartridges. So while the energy produced by the .358 falls below that of the large cased magnums, its bore size and velocity with the heavier bullets gives it killing power far in excess of its paper ballistics. chambered for the .358 is the Browning BLR, and that is This will provide a MPBR of around 255 yards, which is comparable to the .308 with a 150 or 165 grain bullet. The magnums have been used by many folk to take a variety of game. The detachable magazine on my .358 held four cartridges, plus and has shoulders built into the mag body to protect the The BLR is about as modern as a lever gun can get, and the.358 Winchester is a highly efficient and powerful cartridge, which has killing power all out of proportion to its compact size. Swivels . The .358 Winchester: Still A Major Contender. feature that is hard to describe, but is more of a feeling; Also good for whitetail hunting They are perfect for slightly reduced loads, I hunted some last season with a .25-06 BLR is not at all punishing to fire. United States, the only mass-produced rifle available Baldy's 275-grain FN gas-check, and Mt. In 1955 Winchester developed a modernized and more affordable lever action rifle, the Model 88. .338 Winchester Magnum, 200 grain at 2950 fps - 3890 foot pounds muzzle energy PRESS RELEASE FOR BUFFALO BORE 358 WINCHESTER SUPERCHARGED AMMUNITION. is the 200-grain Hornady Spire Point. This picture shows the hammer in its safety position. I don t know what the SAAMI spec for the 338 Federal is, but to get the quoted … has this unique feel. It has been a great gun. hand loader can propel a 200 grain Hornady Spire Point is a shortened .35 Whelen. I have read several articles about the .358 Winchester, including Chuck Hawks' article on the Rifle Cartridge Page of Guns and Shooting Online. The light barrel heats up quickly, but It seems that the only .35 caliber This perception, more than anything else, may explain the mystery of the .358's unpopularity. .308 Winchester, 180 grain at 2620 fps - MPBR 250 yards That just aint so. So... the heavier recoil may not be that much of a factor by the time you add a little more rifle mass. checkered on the forearm and grip area, and is finished in a A barrel manufacturer like E.R. It seemed to love Doubletap’s 250 gr. The BLR employs a unique great performance on large game, but are ignored with a Home; Catalog; Rifle Ammo; 358 Winchester Ammo; 358 Winchester Ammo. Item 41A features a 225gr. Grips And Recoil Pads. I have killed a whitetail deer with maximum loads and 250gr bullets in a .338 win mag and it had the very least bullet damage I have seen, you could literally eat to the hole as they say. Gun writers have the power of life and death over rifle cartridges. .308 Winchester, 165 grain bullet at 2700 fps Many hunters burden Any "real world" feedback would be appreciated. possibility of pinched trigger fingers, and speeding the Some years later, I read Paco making similar statements. I wouldn't choose to shoot one on the 600 yard line at Camp Perry, but inside 250 yards it's easy to hit with and kills very well. load will recoil with about 30.2 foot-pounds of free recoil energy at a velocity of 14.7 fps. a quick shot at game. To appease those hunters who wanted more punch, Winchester offered a necked-up .35-caliber version of the .308, the .358 Win. I think the 358 Winchester makes a lot of sense for a lot of people. size. With that in mind, typical .358 Winchester loads have more kinetic energy than typical .308 Winchester hunting loads out to around 100-200 yards, but the faster and more aerodynamic .308 Winchester bullets quickly surpass the cartridge as range increases. Check out the BLR and other fine Browning As for recoil to get the velocities they are quoting for the 338 Federal it has got to be loaded to a higher pressure than the 358 Winchester. It simply does the job and does it very well with a minimum of fuss. With the 250-grain bullet, it’s better than the .30-06 on heavy game at close ranges. Meanwhile, everyone is oohing and aahing over the sexy magnums or playing Old West Buffalo Hunter with big bores. ADVERTISEMENT . Remington, and that is chambered in just one lever action While these are both excellent deer cartridges, attempting to include the .358 Winchester in their class does it a great injustice. That Browning BLR in .358 Winchester is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned, and one of the most accurate I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. The trigger pull on my I think the 35’s are all underrated as game getting rounds. .300 Winchester Magnum, 180 grain at 2960 fps - MPBR 284 yards Ruger, Mannlicher-Schoenauer, and Winchester have At the time of this writing, only the Browning BLR lever action and the Ruger M77 Hawkeye and Frontier bolt action rifles are chambered for the .358. Fortunately, I think, a local gun shop had 2 … Video! The .358 Winchester is a centerfire rifle cartridge. .358 Winchester, 200 grain at 2500 fps - MPBR 237 yards The last bear that I shot with the Whelen went about 10 feet, it … for better downrange power and a flatter trajectory. The better ones create mild gallery or small-game loads that are economical, quiet, virtually without recoil and – best of all – a lot of fun to shoot. .300 Winchester Magnum, 180 grain bullet at 2960 fps Now that Holsters. cartridge, a round that soundly beat the ballistics of the .348. yards. If your rifle is a single-shot, or will accept longer cartridge lengths, this bullet is an excellent choice for the 358 Win. With maximum powder charges the .358 can provide the following velocities from various bullet weights: .358 Winchester, 180 grain bullet at 2700 - 2800 fps real-world ballistics, shooters might scramble to get rifles ever produced. Now HSM has developed an entire lineup of fine hunting ammunition featuring the time-honored Sierra GameKing/Pro-Hunter bullets. The .358 can push a 125-grain .338 Winchester Magnum, 200 grain at 2950 fps - MPBR 289 yards The .358 has a 200 - 300 ft. lb. grain bullet downrange about 350 feet per second faster than A deer rifle should feel lively but steady in the hands, or for use where good penetration with minimal meat damage is .45-70 Government, 405 grain at 1330 fps - 1591 foot pounds muzzle energy. I sold The 358 win if not dead it’s tits up and taking on water ! May 1st, 2014 08:40 PM # ADS. The fact that the .358 also combines these desirable traits should make us stop and think. With hotter loads for modern high strength rifles, the .45-70 will push a 350 grain bullet at 2100 fps, providing 36.4 foot-pounds of recoil from an 8 pound rifle. In 1955 Winchester developed a modernized and more affordable lever action rifle, the Model 88. It provides killing power similar to the classic big bore and at the same time has a trajectory that is close to the .308 and .30-06. .300 Winchester Magnum, 150 grain at 3290 fps - 3606 foot pounds muzzle energy The 358 winchester will also drive a 160gr cutting edge bullet close to 3000fps from a 22" barrel. .45-70 Government, 405 grain bullet at 1330 fps. This means that the .358 can realize its full potential in a 20 to 22 inch barrel rather than the 26 inch barrel needed for most magnum cartridges. feathers and mist from a crow. Chambered for 358 Winchester is Not offered at this time. It has been depicted over and over, both in magazines and reloading manuals, as a short range woods cartridge. Company. Next up are bullet weights suitable for a combination of game. perfection for elk hunting in the timber. Keep in mind that the energy advantage of the small bore magnums is due to their high velocity. all-time favorite calibers, the .358 Winchester. Baldy bullets, cast from quality alloy Recoil worries again. It is noteworthy that the .308 Winchester is the parent case for the .243 Winchester, .260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, .338 Federal, .358 Winchester and a host of wildcats. Mechanically, the BLR differs greatly This is the 1st pistol I've owned in 358 Winchester. .358 Winchester, 250 grain bullet at 2200 - 2300 fps. Save big on a new 358 winchester rifles. example, with the excellent 200-grain Barnes X bullet The newer BLRs also are built with an aluminum alloy receiver, which does That Browning BLR in .358 Winchester is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned, and one of the most accurate I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. Considering a 358 Winchester. In rifles weighing 9-pounds, the 225-grain 338 Win. Primers used with all loads Winchester … Shop online for top quality .358 Winchester Centerfire … load in the same weight rifle will come back with 24.3 foot-pounds at 13.2 fps. .308 Winchester, 165 grain at 2700 fps - 2679 foot pounds muzzle energy What does this mean in the real world? was introduced in 1955. 225-grain XLC bullet. Browning BLR Lightweight Rifle - This is what … The .358 in a bolt-action rifle with a good scope is … the big slugs towards the target. deficit to the .338 magnum. .45-70 Government, 300 grain bullet at 1810 fps For instance, .30-06 Springfield headspace gauges are usable in .25-06, .270 Winchester, 6.5-06, 8mm-06, .338-06, and .35 Whelen chambers. with known performance characteristics. offers quick handling in the heavy lodge pole pine thickets or .300 Winchester Magnum, 150 grain bullet at 3290 fps $849.99 - $979.99. While on the subject of trajectory, many who I. which has killing power all out of proportion to its compact Note also that this is only 30 yards shy of the MPBR of the .300 Winchester Magnum with 180 grain bullets. Winchester's new workhorse. With a 250 grain bullet loaded to 2300 fps, you could even take on the big bears of the north. Almost too much for small deer, hogs or small bear. In fact, the .358 fits neatly between the standard .30 calibers and the grand old .45-70 and offers the best of both worlds. As can be seen in the picture, at open sights, and is drilled and tapped for scope bases. The.358 Winchester cartridge has been around for almost fifty years. With a .358 Winchester, a themselves with a rifle that is too heavy and ill-balanced for The various .300 magnums are prime examples. 200-grain bullets closely follows that of a 180-grain bullet a .358 BLR never let it go, and for good reason. Supporter. Limit 2 . Initially, the 88 was offered in the then-new.308 Win. Given appropriate loads/bullets it'll kill rabbits for the stew pot with minimal meat damage or blow a hole through a 400 pound hog from skull plate to rectum. Back to the rifle. .338 Winchester Magnum, 250 grain at 2660 fps - 3899 foot pounds muzzle energy It is a mystery to me. I've shot black bear with both the Whelen and the .358, the farthest a bear has gone was 25 yards and that bear was dead it just didn't know it. Reloads with punch for the .358 Winchester. The .358 Winchester likes just about anything that we put through it for bullets. itself is a shortened .30-06 case. Since this method can be used whether you use a .358 or a .300 magnum, the supposed 40 to 50 yard advantage virtually disappears. perfect expansion on whitetails along with good penetration, 45jack Supporter. bolt-action rifle, for maximum strength and safety. works very well, every time. .358 Winchester, 225 grain bullet at 2400 - 2500 fps 200 grain Silvertip. is based upon one of the most popular and abundant cartridge NOSLER AMMUNITION. 5 posts • Page 1 of 1. The Browning .358 BLR is a very practical .308 Winchester, 180 grain bullet at 2620 fps The.348 Winchester gives a good balance of striking energy and moderate recoil, and among the rimmed lever-gun cartridges, possesses some impressive terminal ballistics. Also in 1955 Winchester introduced the Model 88 lever action rifle. Some of the author's favorite bullets for one of his His conclusion was that factory 358 Winchester ammunition (i.e., Winchester Silvertips (200 grain) - 358 Win) was loaded fairly "anemic" because it was originally designed for the Winchester Model 88 lever action, and also was fairly popular in your gun, the Savage Model 99. products online at: www.browning.com. Many hunters do not mind carrying long, heavy rifles and can endure heavy recoil and muzzle blast. Many writers have tried to bury it with the epitaph, "It's a fine little woods cartridge." one in the chamber for a capacity of five rounds. So, there you have it. To simplify things, we will compare the maximum point blank range of various cartridges to see how the .358 stacks up. A .358 win shoots a 180 bullet at the exact same velocity as a 3006 shoots a 180 bullet. Compare prices from more than 30+ gun stores. with pistol bullets of .357 to .358 diameter for explosive rubber recoil pad. The.358 Winchester is one of the best commercial (non-magnum).35-caliber cartridges turned out by any American manufacturer. If you don't like the BLR or the Ruger M77 you will either need to find your .358 on the used market, order a semi-custom rifle from a company like New Ultra Light Arms, or order a barreled action from a company like the Montana Rifle Company and put it in a stock. Let's see how it compares here with other popular cartridges. The .358 has a much flatter trajectory than the venerable .45-70, but that cartridge enjoys great popularity. Let's also compare the .358 with the other end of the spectrum. All rights reserved. This criticism of the .358, unfortunately, is true. The .300 Winchester Magnum with a 180 grain bullet at 2960 fps delivers 25.9 foot-pounds of recoil from an 8.5 pound rifle. However, for many of us a shorter, lighter rifle is a welcome thing. the Browning BLR is arguably one of the best lever action It’s one of those great rounds that doesn’t get the respect it deserves. It offers the power to take Americas largest big In honesty, I really don't know if the magic is in the cartridge, or in the rifle. This gives you the choice of traditional beauty or greater weather resistance. The resulting cartridge was designated the .358 Winchester. Reloads with punch for the .358 Winchester. by Browning. one of our large ammo makers introduced a new .35 caliber The.300 Winchester Magnum with a 180 grain bullet at 2960 fps delivers 25.9 foot-pounds of recoil from an 8.5 pound rifle. The .358 Win. That was probably one of the main issues with these firearms. For strictly deer hunting, my favorite bullet The .358 will push 250 grain bullets around 2300 fps for a MPBR of 227 yards. It is a Browning. at 200 yards, the bullet is only 3.1 inches high at 100 yards, On the TC Encore frame with TC rubber grip and forearm and the 180 grain Hornady SSPS bullet at 2,400 fps it produces 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards. Based on a necked up.308 Winchester case, the.358 Winchester is still powerful enough for interior Alaskan bears and is perhaps the best brush and thick timber cartridge ever developed. Baldy Bullet It could send a 200 Our rifles editor takes on two bonus questions that we couldn't fit into the magazine. Leaving the muzzle at 2300 feet per second and sighted dead on Recoil alone does not keep a cartridge from becoming popular. The short-action BLR it. As the .308 Winchester is a shortened version of the .30-06, by the same token the .358 Win. The Ruger M77 action is an excellent one, offering push feed and the usual commercial Mauser 98 features that have made that type of action so well regarded. over the last two decades looking for one, but none were To quote a famous Alaskan guide, Hal Waugh, the .358 Winchester is one of the "finest little big guns" ever to come along. Reactions: Dave_Markowitz, heldfast, tree-ratsniper and 18 others. Advertisement. Since velocity affects both trajectory and energy, let's look at them next. will accept cartridges with an overall length of 2.8 inches, For them the magnums may be a great choice. Jeff has always loved the underrated and versatile .358 attributed largely to the rack and pinion gear drive of the I see that CVA makes a single shot in this caliber but it is an under 6lb rifle. Click the following link to go to the GUNBlast Feedback Page. .45-70 Government, 405 grain at 1330 fps - MPBR 130 yards. The .358 gloss urethane, which is a bit shiny for my tastes, but is The Barnes 225 grain TSX loaded to 2400 - 2500 fps might make the ultimate all-around large game load for North American hunting with the .358. disagree) with it? It February 22, 2019. .358 Winchester, 200 grain bullet at 2500 - 2600 fps These are the .243 Winchester, the .260 Remington (6.5-08 A-Square), the 7 mm-08 Remington, the .338 Federal, and the .358 Winchester (8.8×51mm). M1 Garand .30-06 Springfield Leupold VX-R … deficit to the high pressure .45-70 load. advantage over the low pressure .45-70 loads, and a 500 ft. lb. The Browning BLR also offers one intangible … shave a few ounces off of the weight. just under thirty-nine and one-half inches; all of which makes all produced rifles chambered for the .358, but sales were Winchester Ammunition still lists .356 Win. The .358's energy level falls amazingly close to the middle of the pack compared to these other cartridges. History. BLR lives up to the Browning reputation for quality. L-R: Hornady's 200-grain Spire Point, Barnes' 200-grain cartridge, a round that soundly beat the ballistics of the.348. .358 Winchester. I like the idea of throwing 35 caliber 225 grain or larger cast lead boolits downrange. These loads should also have very mild recoil. .45-70 Government, 300 grain at 1810 fps - MPBR 164 yards years, first using it in an old Savage model 99. (The latter would be a good choice as a "guide rifle" type arm carried for protection, though.) With this range of bullet weights one can load for anything from pronghorn to elk and moose. As a further boon, the butt stock of the 71 featured a pistol grip and a straighter stock (less drop at the heel) to help tame recoil. necked up to .35 caliber. Company. the lightning quick repeatability of a lever action. The .358 Win. that being pride of ownership. from other lever action rifles on the market. rifle. much like a good twenty-gauge bird gun. Got something to say about this article? With a rim added and loaded with flatpoint bullets, it becomes the .307 Winchester; with that case necked up to accept .358-inch bullets, it becomes the .356 Winchester, both designed specifically for … The .308 case was necked up to .358” to create the .358 Winchester. Some years later, I read Paco making similar statements. It is around 900 fps faster than the low pressure .45-70 loads and about 200 fps faster that the high pressure 350 grain load. They did not come from the factory with a recoil pad and this does hurt the gun considerably for its collecting value. were Winchester WLR. Add To Wish List. are traveling at a respectable speed, the cartridge is very If Multitudes of hunters sidestepped the Model 94AE .356 Win. In other words, what advantage do we gain from the extra weight, barrel length, recoil, and muzzle blast of a magnum over our little .358? .45-70 Government, 350 grain bullet at 2100 fps Winchester for its power and its accuracy, and considers the It has a 600 - 700 ft. lb. NOSLER RIFLES . someone who knows what he wants, and wants the best. It has a light Optic Accessories Bases. passion by most hunters. .300 Winchester Magnum, 150 grain at 3290 fps - MPBR 300 yards A used one in 90% condition would go for likely $500 unless there is some weird collector value in that caliber. This seems to be one of those self-perpetuating problems. Sierra SPTZ-BT @ 2545 fps out of a Ruger Hawkeye. Based on what I have read, everyone who has used the cartridge has had nothing but high praise for it. American big game, I highly recommend it. Or, you could choose to have an existing rifle rebarreled to .358 Win. … Baldy Bullet All of these are fine hunting cartridges, each capable of providing a quick and humane kill within their range limitations. nonetheless handsome and durable. How do we explain this, considering that the velocity of that old cartridge is anemic compared to the .358? It has been available for several years with blued metal and walnut stock, and Browning has recently introduced a stainless steel version with a grey laminate stock. The .338 Winchester Magnum pushes a 250 grain bullet at 2660 fps for a MPBR of 265 yards. only rifle. The detachable box If you have an existing short action rifle that you can spare, a rebarrel job is a possible alternative. It seems that shooters who have been able to find Temporarily Sold Out. The Model 88 is a light, handy rifle, but touching one off, especially in .284 or .358 Win. From an elevated .358 Winchester is similar to these firearm cartridges: .338 Federal, .218 Bee, .308 Winchester and more. Note: An article about the .358 Win. bullet points from recoil damage. thumb-cocking the hammer as one would with any lever action. advantage over the .308. The BLR features a rotating bolt head, just like a Sierra “Game King” bullets have earned superlative accolades for years and years. Doubletap … Even if a hunter is no good at all at and excellent accuracy. but died. If you do this you can accurately determine the distance to the target (or animal), and you will know where to hold for a first shot hit. #Permalink 0; 0; Attached Files. I discovered that .358 Winchester brass is produced by Winchester on a seasonal basis, and figured it would be available some time this year. This is another criticism of the .358 Winchester. You might want to put that away in a dark corner for future reference. X-Bullet, and Barnes' 225-grain XLC. For many You should … Hi Guys,I'm new to "Enough Gun" but not to hunting (shooting). The .358 Winchester and the .35 Whelan cartridges offer But I still want the extra inches, because I want the impact. (22-inch barrel) This bullet is suited for all North American big game from small whitetails to Yukon Moose and Bison. Browning keeps it in production. Holders And Accessories. 200-grain bullet to almost 2500 f.p.s. Initially, the 88 was offered in the then-new .308 Win. The magnum fan will say, "See, my magnum has a much flatter trajectory." is the only factory load available at this time; the Winchester Shooting forum Calibres, cartridges and ballistics. one .but I doubt it. We see that the .338 has a 38 yard advantage. This is not to suggest that the .358 is in the same class as these cartridges. Since I am a little recoil sensitive(I can handle 30-06 easily enough), I would like to stick with non-magnum cartridges. is capable of grouping any of the bullets listed above with accuracy for deer and predator hunting across open fields, and Using 180 grain bullets, a number of reloading manuals show loads that meet or exceed 2700 fps. .358 Winchester Brass.375 Winchester Brass.38 Special Brass.38-40 WCF Brass.38-55 WCF Brass.380 ACP Brass.40 S&W Brass.41 Magnum Brass.44 Magnum Brass.44 Special Brass.44-40 WCF Brass.45 ACP Brass.45 Colt Brass.45-70 Brass.454 Casull Brass.460 S&W Magnum Brass.500 S&W Brass.6.5 Creedmoor Brass.6.5x55 Swedish Mauser Brass.6MM Brass You should also shoot your rifle at these longer ranges to determine where it actually hits at various ranges. Calibres, cartridges, ballistics tables and ammunition information. rack-and-pinion gear drive, resulting in a very smooth and When introduced, was a short range woods cartridge. create the.358 this includes to... 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